Politische Lage Thailand

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  1. Sukkot

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  2. somkiat

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    Zu unserer grenzenlosen Überraschung hat Khun Mumpitz mal wieder was mißverstanden , aber er hat ja das Vorum zur notdürftigen Versorgung mit Basiserkenntnissen , derer er so dringend bedarf . Die Bangkok Post von heute :

    Between 800 million baht and one billion baht has been withdrawn from the share of assets which the court had decided could be returned to the Shinawatra family.The Revenue Department intended to freeze this money as part of a retroactive tax levy. But it might have a problem getting its hands on the money now some has been withdrawn.

    The department wants the son and eldest daughter of Thaksin to pay 12 billion baht in income tax and fines.

    It wants to tax Panthongtae and Pinthongta Shinawatra on proceeds from the sale of shares in Shin Corp in 2006.

    Although the withdrawn money had yet to be taken out of the country, Mr Korn said, he was worried the balance left would not be enough for future confiscations.

    Der konnte über die Knete also verfügen weil das Gericht es so beschlossen hat . Da freut sich der Taksin jetzt , daß der _mumpitz nix davon gemerkt hat obwohl er mit seinen Thais von der Salatfarm auf den Straßen Khrungteps rumgerannt sein muß .

    Das nach Erkenntnissen des _mumpitz schon in (bar!) außer Landes geschaffte Geld ist aber laut Mr. Korn noch drin . Mr. Korn ist der Finanzminister , _mumpitz aber weiß alles . wer hat nun recht ?
     
  3. Julia

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    Ich kann mir nicht mal ein annäherend objektives Urteil über den PM erlauben, weil mich die bezaubernde Schönheit seines Antlitzes soo sehr ablenkt (nein, ich stehe normalerweise nicht auf Asiaten)... :oops:
     
  4. miles-and-points

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    Gerne doch. Das ist allerdings nicht ein Produkt des ASV gewesen,
    sondern der Berliner "Tagesspiegel". Und nicht nur der reagiert ob
    der klugen Entscheidung des Premierministers, sich mit den Leuten
    der anderen Seiten zum Gespräch zu treffen, überaus wohlwollend.

    Schließlich kommt es ja vor allem darauf an, wie die internationale
    Presse (und noch mehr, wie die internationale Staatengemeinschaft)
    auf die Entwicklung im Königreich Thailand reagiert. Und das ist doch
    sehr ermutigend für die demokratisch geführte Regierung dort.
     
  5. Sukkot

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    :shock:
     
  6. miles-and-points

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    Ach so - "gezwungen" wurde er. Dabei ist das doch bei
    Demokratren durchaus Usus, sich auch mit derartigen
    Leuten, die "Druck von der Straße" ausüben wollen, an
    einen Tisch zusammenzusetzen, um über die Probleme
    zu diskutieren. Ob (und wenn: welche) Zugeständnisse
    am Ende gemacht werden, wird sich möglicherweise ja
    zeigen. Im Moment sitzt Abhisit sicherer im Sattel als er
    es jemals tat. Da hilft auch kein "Wehklagen" von HMS-
    geschädigten Schreiberlingen des "Neuen Deutschland".

    8) :lol: :mrgreen:
     
  7. miles-and-points

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    Da hilft nur lesen, lesen, lesen. :idea:
     
  8. Sukkot

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    :idea:
     
  9. anwe

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    Bei Demokraten schon, stimmt. Aber wie kommst Du darauf das das in Thailand zutrifft?

    In diesem Falle, wenn man Thanong von der Bangkok Post glauben darf, wohl eher nicht

    "Forced into the corner.

    Gen Prawit Wongsuwan, the defence minister, and Gen Anupong Paochinda warned Abhisit that he has to step forward to hold talks with the Red Shirts. Otherwise, the Military would abandon their support of the Abhisit government and the Coalition would be asked to form a new government with Pheu Thai Party as a core."

    http://blog.nationmultimedia.com/thanon ... 28/entry-5

    Aber sicherlich hat das nichts mit Zwang zu tun :lol:


    Davon ab, die heutigen Gespräche sind doch vielversprechend, man nähert sich an.
    Wie ich ja schon geschrieben hatte: Hoffentlich muss Khun M umpitz nicht weinen.


    Zu den von m umpitz "gefundenen" Berichten rate ich jedem die Meinung eines Reporters vor Ort über die ersten 14 Tage zu lesen (und der ist kein Freund von Thaksin, bevor der Hofberichterstatter dies wieder behauptet):
    http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandal ... st-part-1/
     
  10. somkiat

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    Da freut sich der Abhisit aber halbtot wenn der Tagesspiegel wohlwollend reagiert . Der sitzt sogar so fest im Sattel , daß er kürzlich eine Auslandsreise abgesagt hat wegen der Roten Horden . Vermutlich hat er Angst gehabt , daß die den Flughafen besetzen , die Verbrecher .
     
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    @ "S.":
    Dir war wieder etwas nicht klar? Okay - dann noch einmal:
    HMS = "Horst-Mahler-Syndrom". So nennt man es, wenn ...
    Das kannste Dir aber eigentlich auch selbst raussuchen, gell? :lol:
     
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    :roll:

    Keine Argumente und schlecht bearbeitete Fotos posten.
    Wer hätte was anderes erwartet.
     
  15. Sukkot

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    Derweil erhält die Bewegung sichtbar Zustimmung von etlichen Seiten. Wenn die Rothemden einen Motorrad- und Autokorso durch die verschiedenen Stadtviertel Bangkoks organisieren, jubeln ihnen viele Menschen am Straßenrand zu – darunter Verkäuferinnen, Arbeiter, Motorradtaxifahrer und Krankenschwestern. Unter den Zuschauern befinden sich aber auch Menschen aus gehobeneren Schichten. "In Thailand müssen sich endlich die politischen und gesellschaftlichen Verhältnisse ändern", sagt ein Mann in fließendem Englisch. Er gibt sich als ehemaliger Regierungsangestellter zu erkennen. Viel zu lange, fügt er hinzu, habe das konservative Establishment die Geschicke bestimmt.


    http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,5408212,00.html
     
  16. miles-and-points

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    Heißt das, Du weißt etwas? Wäre ja mal ganz was Neues.
    Zum Beispiel, wer der anonyme Absender dieses Pics ist?
    Dann verrat es uns doch einfach. Einmal etwas beitragen. 8)
     
  17. Sukkot

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    Hoffen wir, im Interesse der Mehrheit der Menschen in Thailand, dass diese gepuderte und mit "Whitening-Cream" vollgekleisterte Hofschranze "Prem" bald aus dem Amt gejagt sein wird.

    Oder sie bald vor ihren göttlichen Richter treten und für ihre Verbrechen büßen wird.
     
  18. somkiat

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    @sukkot

    Bitte sieh davon ab , den User _mumpitz mit ausgewogenen Darstellungen der Situation zu belästigen , die dazu noch von der Deutschen Welle stammen .
     
  19. anwe

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    Mehr als Du, aber das ist ja nicht schwer.

    Das Foto ist von Thaksins Twitter Account (vgl. http://twitter.com/Thaksinlive) und von einer, der Bildbearbeitung nicht mächtigen, Person schlecht bearbeitet.
    Zu Gute halten muss man dieser Person das sie es wahrscheinlich lustig meinte. Macht nichts, Humor ist eben doch eine Frage der Intelligenz.

    Ob der anonyme Absender mumpitz, gonzo oder Frodo heisst ist mir eigentlich relativ egal.
     
  20. somkiat

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    Daß der Taksin ein Obergangster ist mag man kaum bezweifeln , womit er sich aber im Übrigen in der Tradition der Thai - Politiker befindet . Falls es jemanden interessiert warum er trotzdem bei den Roten Horden beliebt ist möge die folgende Abhandlung studieren . Stammt von Wikipedia .


    Policies of the Thaksin government;
    Economic, health policies and Thaksinomics.
    Thaksin's government designed its policies to appeal to the rural majority, initiating programs like village-managed microcredit development funds, low-interest agricultural loans, direct injections of cash into village development funds (the SML scheme), infrastructure development, and the One Tambon One Product (OTOP) rural small and medium enterprise development program.
    Thaksinomics, Thaksin's economic policies, helped accelerate Thailand's economic recovery from the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis and substantially reduce poverty. GDP grew from 4.9 trillion baht at the end of 2001 to 7.1 trillion baht at the end of 2006. Thailand repaid its debts to the International Monetary Fund two years ahead of schedule.
    Income in the Northeast, the poorest part of the country, had been stagnant from 1995 to 200 but rose dramatically by 46% from 2001 to 2006.[55] Nationwide poverty fell by half, from 21.3% to 11.3%, during the Thaksin years.[4] Thailand's Gini coefficient, a measure of income inequality, fell from .525 in 2000 to .499 in 2004 (it had risen from 1996 to 2000).[56] The Stock Exchange of Thailand outperformed other markets in the region. After facing fiscal deficits in 2001 and 2002, Thaksin balanced the national budget, producing comfortable fiscal surpluses for 2003 to 2005. Despite a massive program of infrastructure investments, a balanced budget was projected for 2007.[57] Public sector debt fell from 57 per cent of GDP in January 2001 to 41 per cent in September 2006.[58][59] Foreign exchange reserves doubled from US$30 billion in 2001 to US$64 billion in 2006.[60]
    Critics say Thaksinomics is little more than a Keynesian-style economic stimulus policy re-branded. Economists from the Thailand Development Research Institute argue that other factors, such as a revival in export demand, were the primary cause behind the economy's recovery.[61] Others claimed that the policies got the rural poor "hooked on Thaksin's hand-outs."[62]
    Thaksin helped bring part of Thailand's massive underground lottery system into the legal fold by operating a successful numbers game (Thai: ???) run by the Government Lottery Office. Lottery sales of approx. 70 billion THB (2 billion USD) were used for social projects, including the "One District, One Scholarship" program. The Thaksin government also privatized MCOT, a large television and radio broadcaster.[63]
    After the 2006 coup, many of Thaksin's economic policies were ended, the OTOP program was rebranded, the Government Lottery Office's program was deemed illegal, and the government nationalized several media outlets and energy companies.

    Healthcare policies.
    Thaksin initiated two key healthcare policies: subsidized universal health care and low-cost universal access to anti-retroviral HIV medication (ARVs). Thaksin's 30-baht/visit universal healthcare program won the applause of the general public, but was criticized by many doctors and officials.[64][65] Prior to the program's introduction, a large portion of the population had no health insurance and only limited access to healthcare. The program helped increase access to healthcare from 76% of the population to 96%.[66] The program also increased workloads for health care employees, and caused many doctors to change to higher paying careers. It has also been criticized for being underfunded by the government. The program caused some hospitals to seek alternative sources of income, leading to a boom in medical tourism, with 1.3 million foreign patients earning Thailand 33 billion THB (approx. 800 million USD) in 2005.[67][68]
    Post-coup Public Health Minister Mongkol Na Songkhla called the 30-baht program a "marketing gimmick" and claimed that the government would "very soon" stop charging patients any fees for visits to state hospitals.[69]
    During the Thaksin government, the number of people living with HIV/AIDS as well as the overall prevalence rate noticeably declined.[70] Although successful in expanding access to HIV medication, there have been concerns that a free trade agreement with the US could endanger Thailand's ability to produce generic HIV treatments.[71]
    Thaksin allowed the estimated 2.3 million migrant workers in Thailand to register and seek health coverage under the Thai national healthcare system. They were also eligible for work permits at the end of the registration period, entitling them to full labor protection. Democrat Party Labour Group Committee Pongsak Plengsaeng criticized the move, claiming that it would lead to unemployment amongst Thais.

    Education policies.
    Thaksin implemented major educational reforms, chief among them school decentralization, as mandated by the 1997 Constitution. It was to delegate school management from the over-centralized and bureaucratized Ministry of Education to Tambon Administrative Organizations (TAOs) but met with massive widespread opposition from Thailand's 700,000 teachers, who would be deprived of their status as civil servants. There were also fears among teachers that TAOs lacked the ability to manage schools. In the face of massive teacher protests and several threats of school closure, Thaksin compromised and gave teachers whose schools were transferred to TAO management two years to transfer to other schools.[82]
    Others included learning reform and related curricular decentralization, mostly through greater use of holistic education and less use of rote learning.[83]
    To increase access to universities for lower income people, Thaksin initiated the Student Loan Fund (SLF) and Income Contingency Loan (ICL) programs. The ICL granted loans regardless of financial status, and required recipients to start repayments when their salaries reached 16,000 baht a month, with interest equivalent to inflation from the day the loan was granted. The SLF had an eligibility limit on family income but interest was 1 per cent starting a year after graduation. The programs were merged and the income limit modified after Thaksin's government was overthrown.[84]
    Thaksin also initiated the controversial "One District, One Dream School" project, aimed at developing the quality of schools to ensure that every district had at least one high-quality school. It was criticized, with claims that the only beneficiaries were Thaksin and companies selling computers and educational equipment. Many schools also fell deeply into debt in implementing the project, receiving inadequate financial support from the central government.[85][86]
    In addition, he altered the state university entrance system, which had relied exclusively on a nationally standardized exams. Thaksin pushed for greater weighting of senior high-school grades in the hope of focusing students on classroom learning rather than private entrance exam tutoring.
    He initiated the Income Contingency Loan program to increase access to higher education, whereby needy students could secure a loan to support their studies from vocational to university levels. Thai banks had traditionally not given education loans. He made Thailand one of the first supporters of Nicholas Negroponte's One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) project, with the Thai Ministry of Education committing to purchase 600,000 units.[87] The junta later cancelled the project.
     

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